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All poker players eventually go through a tough period where they string together many losing sessions or canโ€™t seem to ๐ŸŒž make the money in a succession of tournaments. Even the best players in the game have had significant downswings in ๐ŸŒž their careers. One of the questions that the CLC coaches get most is โ€œHow do you deal with and recover ๐ŸŒž from downswings?โ€. We asked 2 of the most successful MTT players on the planet, CLCโ€™s Chance Kornuth and Alex Foxen ๐ŸŒž about their personal experiences with downswings. Letโ€™s dive into their responses! Justin Lynch: What Was The Worst Downswing Of Your ๐ŸŒž Career? Alex Foxen: Iโ€™d say the worst downswing of my career probably came in 2024. I definitely overextended a bit ๐ŸŒž from a bankroll perspective, probably playing overconfident and not critical enough of my own game and that is the perfect ๐ŸŒž recipe to create a big downswing. I donโ€™t have an exact number but probably a couple million lost in that ๐ŸŒž one. Chance Kornuth: I have taken the shots and went up to a million and then down toR$100-$200k before I ๐ŸŒž stayed over a million when games were softer and I thought I should have taken a lot more but now ๐ŸŒž that Iโ€™m a family man, I donโ€™t do that anymore (laughs). Justin Lynch: What is your go to activity to ๐ŸŒž reset during a downswing? Alex Foxen: Absolutely working out and doing something physical. Getting your mind out of whatever state ๐ŸŒž it is in. Anything that creates that meditative singular focus that a workout or maybe doing something with your hands ๐ŸŒž does. Something that can get you out of your head and into your body, that gets you into the present ๐ŸŒž moment as much as possible. I think physical movement is really really good for that. Chance Kornuth: I like working ๐ŸŒž out and spending time with my friends and family, watching movies and playing games. Doing anything nonpoker to get 100% ๐ŸŒž of your focus onto other things. Justin Lynch: How Do You Measure if youโ€™re running bad vs not playing your ๐ŸŒž best? Alex Foxen: I donโ€™t think that there is a perfect way to measure these two things. Thatโ€™s why it ๐ŸŒž is really important to be constantly critical and the best way to avoid a downswing is to always act like ๐ŸŒž you are in a downswing, always put work into your game, always question everything you do even when it works. ๐ŸŒž Ask the questions โ€œCould I have made more on that line?โ€, โ€œCould I have possibly bet bigger here?โ€, โ€œWhat if ๐ŸŒž he had this hand?โ€, โ€œHow would I approach it if the turn was this?โ€. All these different varying questions to ๐ŸŒž ask yourself to keep yourself in a state of growth instead of stagnation. For me and I also feel it ๐ŸŒž is true for most people, downswings always come after a period of stagnation and then the downswing almost always end ๐ŸŒž after a period of effort into change. I know so many people who decided to work with a mental game ๐ŸŒž coach or decided to seek coaching for the fundamental side of their poker game or start working with a solver. ๐ŸŒž So many of these people get instant results and I think there is an energetic aspect of that, putting your ๐ŸŒž effort into productive things allows you to be at your best in the game and to be more open minded ๐ŸŒž which leads you with more room for growth. If you just think what you are doing is right and youโ€™re ๐ŸŒž not questioning it constantly then when something comes across that someone else does or that is an option to do ๐ŸŒž something it will be harder for you to accept it or consider it as an option for you just because ๐ŸŒž of the nature of it and the state that your brain is in at the time. Chance Kornuth: I think ๐ŸŒž thatโ€™s actually something that people mess up as far as running bad vs not playing your best. Focusing on the ๐ŸŒž things that you can control as opposed to things you canโ€™t is imperative Justin Lynch: During a downswing do you ๐ŸŒž put in more study vs more volume- whatโ€™s the mix there? Alex Foxen: For me itโ€™s mostly playing, I am ๐ŸŒž doing a little bit of both all the time. So I think that studying is valuable, however without regular play ๐ŸŒž itโ€™s pretty worthless. There is too much to think about in poker, you need some things to be automatic, so ๐ŸŒž if you just study when you get to play none of those things are going to be automatic, if you ๐ŸŒž just play you are not as likely to question your decision making and improve on what you are doing and ๐ŸŒž your process in the game. That side is pretty heavy in favor of playing over study, but you canโ€™t optimize ๐ŸŒž one without the other. Chance Kornuth: I would say definitely put in a little more study, it is definitely easiest ๐ŸŒž for us to want to study more when we havenโ€™t been losing, however for me itโ€™s like preparing for a ๐ŸŒž stop. I study for the WSOP or before I do certain things and if I notice that I was inadequate ๐ŸŒž on a certain board texture and I didnt know what to do, I tell Foxen,โ€Letโ€™s go through the spot and ๐ŸŒž do a webinar on it.โ€ Justin Lynch: What do you consider a downswing at this point in your career? Alex ๐ŸŒž Foxen: Honestly, I donโ€™t have any kind of metric for it. I donโ€™t think about that in that way at ๐ŸŒž all. I consider a downswing when I look at how much cash I have and I am surprised with how ๐ŸŒž low it is. I am not super meticulous with managing my bankroll, I have an idea where it is and ๐ŸŒž I take risks accordingly but I am not necessarily looking at my results and saying โ€œOh wow, I am on ๐ŸŒž a 23 buyin downswingโ€. The moral of what I am saying is downswings are only in your head, they are ๐ŸŒž a construct they donโ€™t exist. Yeah we go up and down in the chart but if you zoom out no ๐ŸŒž downswing is actually real on a players graph, they just go up and down. There is only the present moment, ๐ŸŒž that is the only thing that exists in whatever kind of esoteric principle. If the present moment only exists there ๐ŸŒž is no such thing as a downswing and there is no such thing as feeling bad about it. So if ๐ŸŒž you stay in this present focused ideology of constant improvement and constant growth, then yeah downswings will happen but then ๐ŸŒž you wont notice them because all you are doing is trying to improve your current self and trying to improve ๐ŸŒž your current bankroll not worrying about what it was yesterday. Chance Kornuth: I consider a downswing more of a monetary ๐ŸŒž percentage. For example If I lost 60k today thatโ€™s more how I measure it. I never really thought about it ๐ŸŒž in terms of not cashing X amount of tournaments or losing X amount of buy-ins.

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